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Feb 11, 2015

The Problem of Good and Evil

    The contents of this post about the question of good and evil was created Taken From The Enchiridion, or Handbook by Saint Augustine is addressed to Laurentius in answer to his questions. St. Augustine wrote it sometime after the death of St. Jerome (September 30, 420).The author usually calls the book “On Faith, Hope and Love,” because he treats the subject under these three heads cf.

This book is one of my favorites I encourage you to read it. It is like a 5th century Catechism or Apologetical works if you will and explains many Orthodox Christian teachings as understood by St. Augustine in the 5th century. For now here are a few awesome chapters for you to ponder on.

St. Augustine

Chapter 11. What is Called Evil in the Universe is But the Absence of Good.

And in the universe, even that which is called evil, when it is regulated and put in its own place, only enhances our admiration of the good; for we enjoy and value the good more when we compare it with the evil. For the Almighty God, who, as even the heathen acknowledge, has supreme power over all things, being Himself supremely good, would never permit the existence of anything evil among His works, if He were not so omnipotent and good that He can bring good even out of evil. For what is that which we call evil but the absence of good? In the bodies of animals, disease and wounds mean nothing but the absence of health; for when a cure is effected, that does not mean that the evils which were present— namely, the diseases and wounds— go away from the body and dwell elsewhere: they altogether cease to exist; for the wound or disease is not a substance, but a defect in the fleshly substance,— the flesh itself being a substance, and therefore something good, of which those evils— that is, privations of the good which we call health— are accidents. Just in the same way, what are called vices in the soul are nothing but privations of natural good. And when they are cured, they are not transferred elsewhere: when they cease to exist in the healthy soul, they cannot exist anywhere else.

Chapter 12. All Beings Were Made Good, But Not Being Made Perfectly Good, are Liable to Corruption.

All things that exist, therefore, seeing that the Creator of them all is supremely good, are themselves good. But because they are not, like their Creator, supremely and unchangeably good, their good may be diminished and increased. But for good to be diminished is an evil, although, however much it may be diminished, it is necessary, if the being is to continue, that some good should remain to constitute the being. For however small or of whatever kind the being may be, the good which makes it a being cannot be destroyed without destroying the being itself. An uncorrupted nature is justly held in esteem. But if, still further, it be incorruptible, it is undoubtedly considered of still higher value. When it is corrupted, however, its corruption is an evil, because it is deprived of some sort of good. For if it be deprived of no good, it receives no injury; but it does receive injury, therefore it is deprived of good. Therefore, so long as a being is in process of corruption, there is in it some good of which it is being deprived; and if a part of the being should remain which cannot be corrupted, this will certainly be an incorruptible being, and accordingly the process of corruption will result in the manifestation of this great good. But if it do not cease to be corrupted, neither can it cease to possess good of which corruption may deprive it. But if it should be thoroughly and completely consumed by corruption, there will then be no good left, because there will be no being. Wherefore corruption can consume the good only by consuming the being. Every being, therefore, is a good; a great good, if it can not be corrupted; a little good, if it can: but in any case, only the foolish or ignorant will deny that it is a good. And if it be wholly consumed by corruption, then the corruption itself must cease to exist, as there is no being left in which it can dwell.

Chapter 13. There Can Be No Evil Where There is No Good; And an Evil Man is an Evil Good.

Accordingly, there is nothing of what we call evil, if there be nothing good. But a good which is wholly without evil is a perfect good. A good, on the other hand, which contains evil is a faulty or imperfect good; and there can be no evil where there is no good. From all this we arrive at the curious result: that since every being, so far as it is a being, is good, when we say that a faulty being is an evil being, we just seem to say that what is good is evil, and that nothing but what is good can be evil, seeing that every being is good, and that no evil can exist except in a being. Nothing, then, can be evil except something which is good. And although this, when stated, seems to be a contradiction, yet the strictness of reasoning leaves us no escape from the conclusion. We must, however, beware of incurring the prophetic condemnation: “Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil: that put darkness for light, and light for darkness: that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter.” And yet our Lord says: “An evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart brings forth that which is evil.” Now, what is evil man but an evil being? For a man is a being. Now, if a man is a good thing because he is a being, what is an evil man but an evil good? Yet, when we accurately distinguish these two things, we find that it is not because he is a man that he is an evil, or because he is wicked that he is a good; but that he is a good because he is a man, and an evil because he is wicked. Whoever, then, says, “To be a man is an evil,” or, “To be wicked is a good,” falls under the prophetic denunciation: “Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil!” For he condemns the work of God, which is the man, and praises the defect of man, which is the wickedness. Therefore every being, even if it be a defective one, in so far as it is a being is good, and in so far as it is defective is evil.

Chapter 14. Good and Evil are an Exception to the Rule that Contrary Attributes Cannot Be Predicated of the Same Subject. Evil Springs Up in What is Good, and Cannot Exist Except in What is Good.

Accordingly, in the case of these contraries which we call good and evil, the rule of thelogicians, that two contraries cannot be predicated at the same time of the same thing, does not hold. No weather is at the same time dark and bright: no food or drink is at the same time sweet and bitter: no body is at the same time and in the same place black and white: none is at the same time and in the same place deformed and beautiful. And this rule is found to hold in regard to many, indeed nearly all, contraries, that they cannot exist at the same time in any one thing. But although no one can doubt that good and evil are contraries, not only can they exist at the same time, but evil cannot exist without good, or in anything that is not good. Good, however, can exist without evil. For a man or an angel can exist without being wicked; but nothing can be wicked except a man or an angel: and so far as he is a man or an angel, he is good; so far as he is wicked, he is an evil. And these two contraries are so far co-existent, that if good did not exist in what is evil, neither could evil exist; because corruption could not have either a place to dwell in, or a source to spring from, if there were nothing that could be corrupted; and nothing can be corrupted except what is good, for corruption is nothing else but the destruction of good. From what is good, then, evils arose, and except in what is good they do not exist; nor was there any other source from which any evil nature could arise. For if there were, then, in so far as this was a being, it was certainly a good: and a being which was incorruptible would be a great good; and even one which was corruptible must be to some extent a good, for only by corrupting what was good in it could corruption do it harm.

Chapter 15. The Preceding Argument is in No Wise Inconsistent with the Saying of Our Lord: “A Good Tree Cannot Bring Forth Evil Fruit.”

But when we say that evil springs out of good, let it not be thought that this contradicts our Lord's saying: “A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit.” For, as He who is the Truth says, you cannot gather grapes of thorns, because grapes do not grow on thorns. But we see that on good soil both vines and thorns may be grown. And in the same way, just as an evil tree cannot bring forth good fruit, so an evil will cannot produce good works. But from the nature of man, which is good, may spring either a good or an evil will. And certainly there was at first no source from which an evil will could spring, except the nature of angel or of man, which was good. And our Lord Himself clearly shows this in the very same place where He speaks about the tree and its fruit. For He says: “Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt,” — clearly enough warning us that evil fruits do not grow on a good tree, nor good fruits on an evil tree; but that nevertheless the ground itself, by which He meant those whom He was then addressing, might grow either kind of trees.

Chapter 16. It is Not Essential to Man's Happiness that He Should Know the Causes of Physical Convulsions; But It Is, that He Should Know the Causes of Good and Evil.

Now, in view of these considerations, when we are pleased with that line of Maro, “Happy the man who has attained to the knowledge of the causes of things,” we should not suppose that it is necessary to happiness to know the causes of the great physical convulsions, causes which lie hidden in the most secret recesses of nature's kingdom, “whence comes the earthquake whose force makes the deep seas to swell and burst their barriers, and again to return upon themselves and settle down.” But we ought to know the causes of good and evil as far as man may in this life know them, in order to avoid the mistakes and troubles of which this life is so full. For our aim must always be to reach that state of happiness in which no trouble shall distress us, and no error mislead us. If we must know the causes of physical convulsions, there are none which it concerns us more to know than those which affect our own health. But seeing that, in our ignorance of these, we are fain to resort to physicians, it would seem that we might bear with considerable patience our ignorance of the secrets that lie hidden in the earth and heavens.

Chapter 17. The Nature of Error. All Error is Not Hurtful, Though It is Man's Duty as Far as Possible to Avoid It.

For although we ought with the greatest possible care to avoid error, not only in great but even in little things, and although we cannot err except through ignorance, it does not follow that, if a man is ignorant of a thing, he must immediately fall into error. That is rather the fate of the man who thinks he knows what he does not know. For he accepts what is false as if it were true, and that is the essence of error. But it is a point of very great importance what the subject is in regard to which a man makes a mistake. For on one and the same subject we rightly prefer an instructed man to an ignorant one, and a man who is not in error to one who is. In the case of different subjects, however—that is, when one man knows one thing, and another a different thing, and when what the former knows is useful, and what the latter knows is not so useful, or is actually hurtful—who would not, in regard to the things the latter knows, prefer the ignorance of the former to the knowledge of the latter? For there are points on which ignorance is better than knowledge. And in the same way, it has sometimes been an advantage to depart from the right way—in travelling, however, not in morals. It has happened to myself to take the wrong road where two ways met, so that I did not pass by the place where an armed band of Donatists lay in wait for me. Yet I arrived at the place whither I was bent, though by a roundabout route; and when I heard of the ambush, I congratulated myself on my mistake, and gave thanks to God for it. Now, who would not rather be the traveller who made a mistake like this, than the highwayman who made no mistake? And hence, perhaps, it is that the prince of poets puts these words into the mouth of a lover in misery: “How I am undone, how I have been carried away by an evil error!” for there is an error which is good, as it not merely does no harm, but produces some actual advantage. But when we look more closely into the nature of truth, and consider that to err is just to take the false for the true, and the true for the false, or to hold what is certain as uncertain, and what is uncertain as certain, and that error in the soul is hideous and repulsive just in proportion as it appears fair and plausible when we utter it, or assent to it, saying, “Yea, yea; Nay, nay,”— surely this life that we live is wretched indeed, if only on this account, that sometimes, in order to preserve it, it is necessary to fall into error. God forbid that such should be that other life, where truth itself is the life of the soul, where no one deceives, and no one is deceived. But here men deceive and are deceived, and they are more to be pitied when they lead others astray than when they are themselves led astray by putting trust in liars. Yet so much does a rational soul shrink from what is false, and so earnestly does it struggle against error, that even those who love to deceive are most unwilling to be deceived. For the liar does not think that he errs, but that he leads another who trusts him into error. And certainly he does not err in regard to the matter about which he lies, if he himself knows the truth; but he is deceived in this, that he thinks his lie does him no harm, whereas every sin is more hurtful to the sinner than to the sinned against.

Source. Translated by J.F. Shaw. From Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, First Series, Vol. 3. Edited by Philip Schaff. (Buffalo, NY: Christian Literature Publishing Co., 1887.)

I hope you have enjoyed the wonderful words of St. Augustine's book. He is considered a doctor of the church and his insights have been enjoyed for about 1500 years now!

Sincerely Joanne Utke :)

Works Salvation

I have titled this Works Salvation not because that is a real teaching, but that non-Catholics wrongly assume that it is a real teaching.

So lets begin!

        We are saved by faith in Christ.
This means what He taught us!

Salvation is a free gift only because it was purchased for us by Christ. Christ provided the redemption and we have to do the work out of love. 



I have seen this  posted by many non-Catholics on the Internet and none-Catholics teach in their churches. The thing is we are saved by faith in Christ and that faith in Christ is only true, is only justified, by what we do with it.

Our faith is not something to keep to our self. Faith is meant to be acted on or it will not save us! It is the difference between a dead faith absent of Grace given by the Holy Spirit and a living faith that is made alive by the Holy Spirit.


So far I think non-Catholics will agree with this. As it says in James 2:17 "So also faith by itself, if it does not have works is dead." There is a couple verses commonly quoted by non-Catholics to prove faith alone salvation in Rom 3:28 "For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law."

And in Rom 4:4 "Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due." Saint Paul is talking about works of the Mosaic law specifically which Christians are not bound and will not save us, again we can all agree on that. In this chapter and in many others Abraham is *justified by his faith* that worked in him to cause obedience to God, not that he did it perfectly. Paul is making it clear to readers that it was his faith and not his works that counted him righteous. We can see that by reading the whole chapter and the whole book, But I don't think we disagree on that, yet it is still a good book to read.

We also see in Rom 2:6 "He will render to each one according to his works:" Rom 2:13 "For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified."

We can see that there is a type of works (Christian works) that *justifies our faith in Christ that saves us* or we have a dead faith (a dead faith will not save us). Works of mercy, charity (like prayer), love, proclaiming the Gospel, and I will add the Sacraments like baptism, all of which make our faith alive!

John 14:12 "“Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I am going to the Father."

If you are a non-Catholic reading this you should know that what I am showing you here is traditional Catholic teaching about salvation. For the record the Catholic Church has never, and will never teach works salvation, we are not saved by works as non-Catholics wrongly assume the Church teaches.

The Catholic teaching on this is *we are saved by Grace through faith, and our faith is justified by our Christian works* it is a living faith in Christ that saves us not a dead one!

We can look at John 1:17 "For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ." This is how we are saved I know you the non-Catholic Christian agrees and this is Catholic teaching just so you know.

Regarding the salvation of the Jewish Christians and Gentile Christians Acts 15:11 "But we believe that we will be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, just as they will.”

Rom 3:23-25 "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins."

Concerning the free gift of salvation through Grace (Christ) and the justification through Grace. Rom 5:15-16 "But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man's trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many. And the free gift is not like the result of that one man's sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brought justification."

Rom 5:21 "so that, as sin reigned in death, grace also might reign through righteousness leading to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Christ is the Grace that has appeared for our Salvation through faith in him! Titus 2:11 "For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,"


The Grace of God who is Christ has appeared to bring us salvation by Grace through faith in him and all that he taught us to do if we love him. All of this in biblical and it is Catholic teaching which you non-Catholic Christian agree with! I hope that you can now see how you don't actually disagree with the Catholic teaching on Salvation, now that you know what that is.

"The first work of the grace of the Holy Spirit is conversion, effecting justification in accordance with Jesus' proclamation at the beginning of the Gospel: "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Moved by grace, man turns toward God and away from sin, thus accepting forgiveness and righteousness from on high. "Justification is not only the remission of sins, but also the sanctification and renewal of the interior man. Justification detaches man from sin which contradicts the love of God, and purifies his heart of sin. Justification follows upon God's merciful initiative of offering forgiveness. It reconciles man with God. It frees from the enslavement to sin, and it heals. **Justification is at the same time the acceptance of God's righteousness through faith in Jesus Christ.** Righteousness (or "justice") here means the rectitude of divine love. With justification, faith, hope, and charity are poured into our hearts, and obedience to the divine will is granted us. Justification has been merited for us by the Passion of Christ who offered himself on the cross as a living victim, holy and pleasing to God, and whose blood has become the instrument of atonement for the sins of all men. Justification is conferred in Baptism, the sacrament of faith. It conforms us to the righteousness of God, who makes us inwardly just by the power of his mercy. Its purpose is the glory of God and of Christ, and the gift of eternal life:" (Catechism of the Catholic Church Article 2 Grace and Justification selections 1990-1992)

In conclusion.

Non-Catholics often and wrongly assume and teach that the Catholic Church teaches "Works Salvation" as many like to call it. They assume without ever reading the Catechism or talking with faithful knowledgeable Catholics that the Church teaches that we are saved by works.

I hope that after this you the non-Catholic will never again wrongly teach lies such as this to people! I also hope the words here can inspire you to learn more about what the Church actually teaches by reading the Catechism. If you are Catholic I hope this helps you understand what the Church teaches on about Salvation when someone tries to tell you about "works salvation."

We all love Christ and want to do God's will and imitating Christ by doing "the works that he does." This is what Saint James meant in his book when he said, "You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone." James 2:24. He is talking about Christian works like I stated before which justifies our faith in Christ and is made possible by Grace.

We don't want to suppress the truth and it is our duty to teach the truth, but first we must know what that is. I believe as do all faithful Catholics that the fullness of that Truth is Christ and is found accessible to us in the teaching of the Catholic Church!

Rom 1:18 "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth"

God bless you and may Grace be with you always!

Sincerely Joanne Utke




Dec 30, 2014

Are Catholics Christians?

     I have heard it before, "Catholics aren't Christians." I am sure you all have heard this before. If you are among the various Protestant or non-Catholic Christians you may actually believe this statement. That is what this post is all about to answer the claim that Catholics aren't Christians. My first thought is how could anyone make such a claim in the first place. Don't all Christians love Christ? Don't all Christians profess a belief in the death and resurrection of Christ the Son of God our Savior! For the Catholics I can say YES WE DO, and the faithful Catholic like the faithful Christian thinks no different on these points. 
"Let love be genuine. Abhor what is evil; hold fast to what is good. Love one another with brotherly affection. Outdo one another in showing honor..."
To learn more about the marks of a true Christian refer to Romans 12:9-21.

Christ through Saint Paul in the book of Romans gives us the standard that we must follow. Being a Christian is not just something you believe in it is also something that you do! Believing is one thing, but we are called to act on what we believe. The Catholic and the non-Catholic alike are subject to these standards which are Christ's! There are so many more verses that I could show you here to make the point, but I think you will get it.
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." Matthew 7:21 
Now that we know what a Christian is and DOES, lets take a quick look at a verse that tells us what a Christian most definitely is not.
"Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son." 1 John 2:22
Along with not acting like a Christian another way to NOT be a Christian is to be "antichrist" and not a Christian. Any denomination that denies Christ is "antichrist." Catholics as well as other Christian denominations do not fall into this category who profess a belief and obedience to Christ at least most of the time
"for all have sinned and fall short to the Glory of God." Romans 3:23
Romans 3:23 is no excuse to do what you wish even commit sin because our Lord also says, "You therefor must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect" Matthew 5:48 The thing here is we as Christians are called to a higher standard and must do our very best to meet those expectations if we want to reach the goal which is heavenly perfection and the beatific vision (seeing God as he is.) This is where the Sacraments of the Catholic Church come in which I will talk a little bit about. This article is not about Sacraments so I strongly encourage you to learn more about them. 

A little bit on the Apostolic Church. The Catholic Church is The Apostolic Church which was founded on the Rock of Christ who then passed on this authority to Peter his first Apostle who is also a rock to act in "Persona Christi" (in the person of Christ) for his Church here on earth.
"And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”" Matthew 16:18-19
This Church was to be an everlasting Church that exists both in heaven and on earth simultaneously encompassing all believers from all corners of the world, a Universal Church founded by Christ himself! This Catholic Church is given by Christ the authority to "bind and loose." In other words to bind the things of heaven right here on earth like the seven Sacraments (Baptism, etc..) and to loose also as in the nullification of a marriage, etc.. Regarding Sacraments this is how I define it, "a Sacrament is the physical reality of a spiritual good." You can also say that they are channels God uses to distribute his Grace. Catholics are in fact Christians as all who have faith in Christ the Son of God are. Don't you ever let anyone tell you other wise especially if your Catholic! Give this article to them or others like it. This is a common misconception among non Catholics. Here is a little history on the word Catholic being used to represent the early Church Christ founded. The word Catholic comes from the Greek word for "Universal" you can look it up in the dictionary to see that. It signifies the Universal Church that Christ established through the Apostles which included not only Jews, but Gentiles as well. In other words Everyone! 
The reason why Catholics are called Catholic is to differentiate the Catholic with the non-Catholic. Starting in the first century of Christianity there were a lot of people claiming to be Christians, (not much has changed) but were not among the sect of the Apostles. And in many cases teaching something other than what the Apostles taught.
"So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by our spoken word or by our letter." 2 Thessalonians 2:15
 "Now we command you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from any brother who is walking in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us." 2 Thessalonians 3:6
The term Catholic was coined to identify those Christians who follow Christ's Church through the Apostles (Apostolic Church) and the others. The earliest record of the early Church being Called Catholic exists in the writings of Saint Ignatius of Antioch and later writings from many other Fathers of the Church contain the term Catholic as well when referring to the Apostolic Church.
"You must all follow the bishop as Jesus Christ follows the Father, and the presbytery as you would the Apostles. Reverence the deacons as you would the command of God. Let no one do anything of concern to the Church without the bishop. Let that be considered a valid Eucharist which is celebrated by the bishop, or by one whom he appoints. Wherever the bishop appears, let the people be there; just as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church. Nor is it permitted without the bishop either to baptize or to celebrate the agape; but whatever he approve, this too is pleasing to God, so that whatever is done will be secure and valid."
This Saint Ignatius quote is taken from a very early Christian erra--- (LETTER TO THE SMYRNAEANS - ST. IGNATIUS BISHOP OF ANTIOCH, AD 110 (2nd century) The Faith of the early Fathers page 25, section 65.)

Saint Ignatius' quote is also interesting because he was Bishop of Antioch in the 2nd century less than a century after Acts of the Apostles was written. Antioch is also the place where the followers of Christ are first called Christians.

"The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch." Acts 11:26
Also notice that Ignatius also mentions that this early Church consisted of bishops, presbyters (which are priests), reverence to the deacons, and the validity of the Sacraments, like Eucharist, baptism and the mass in the Catholic Church alone. Which confirms what scripture teaches us about there being one faith and one baptism!
"one Lord, one faith, one baptism" Ephesians 4:5

There is so much more I could say on this that I could write a book on it. In fact many books have been written on them as well. Let me recommend first anything by Scott Hahn. Please take a look at my recommended reading page on this blog for a nice list of books that I have read. You may also want to refer to the Catholic answers website and most importantly the Catechism of the Catholic Church for more information. The Catechism link above that I have provided you will take you to the Apostolic succession page in the Catechism. I think you will find it helpful if you will take the time to read it. Also keep in mind that the Catechism is always available online for free for your reading pleasure.

Many people make lots of claims about the Catholic Church claiming to know what the Church teaches on one teaching or another. I have found that most people have a lot to say regarding what the Catholic Church teaches and most are acting upon misinformation that has been given to them sometimes even among Catholics them selves. 


Unfortunately many Catholics have not read much of the Catechism of the Catholic Church. I want to urge all Catholics and non Catholics alike to pick it up and study it along with your bible. 


The Catechism helps us to study scripture in the light of Christ resurrected and in light of the almost 2,000 year history and tradition of the Church! I also often wonder how many people who claim to know what the Church teaches actually have read the Catechism. From my experience those who appose the Church's teachings have not read even one line in the Catechism, and do not understand the biblical origin of her teachings. 


How about you? 


Speaking for my self I have it, and read it often, and love it. I make it a regular part of my spiritual reading. I have just gotten it also for my Kindle for more convenient reading that way anytime I promote a religious or spiritual view it is in line with authentic teachings of the Apostolic Church. I find it a very beautiful, Theological book which loves and honors Christ.


For more information about the early Church Fathers like Saint Ignatius is The Fathers Know Bestby Jimmy Akin. You can also read many of the writings of people like Saint Ignatius online just by doing a search.


Please also take a look at these previous posts:


Eucharist in Scripture Study Guide


And feel free to take a look at the Bible Study page at the top of this blog :)

Thank you for your time and the likes to this page.


God bless! From Joanne Utke


Quotes used in this article:


Romans 12:9-21

Matthew 7:21
1 John 2:22
Romans 3:23
Matthew 5:48
Matthew 16:18-19
2 Thessalonians 2:15, 3:6
Acts 11:26
Ephesians 4:5
LETTER TO THE SMYRNAEANS - ST.  IGNATIUS BISHOP OF ANTIOCH, AD 110

All bible quotes are taken from the English Standard Version of the bible which I happen to love!



Dec 23, 2014

God's Birthday

                                                 Christmas and God's Birthday

       Is December 25 really the true date of Christ's birth?

Was December 25 chosen to replace pagan celebrations like Saturnalia or Natalis Solis Invicti which means Birthday of the Unconquered Sun?

The answers to these and many other questions about the date of Christmas explained in this wonderful ebook called God's Birthday by Taylor R. Marshall. A must read for the holidays for any one who questions the date of Christ's birth!

I suggest that you get this book right away Taylor Marshall does an awesome job  in this book! Every year I read about Christmas and the debates over the date of December 25, but no one puts it into such common sense as Taylor.

This book is short it is an ebook, but it is packed with historical facts proving the date of December 25 for the birth of Christ. I also learned some other interesting dates in this book.

Did you know that Christ is believed to have died and been conceived on the same day March 25? I also learned that Saint Hyppolytus' in his works titles Chronicon the earth is said to be created on what is identified as March 25, 5500 B.C.!

There is one for the creationists :)

"Thus, March 25 was identified by the Church Fathers as the Creation date of the universe, as the date of the Annunciation and Incarnation of Christ, and also as the date of  the Death of Christ our Savior."

This makes 9 months earlier from March 25 exactly December 25!

Every year I am reminded about the many Christmas nay sayers out there who do not want to believe that Christ was born on December 25. These same people tend to shoot out all of the other myths concerning Christmas as well, for one reason or another.

I have found that there is more proof to support a December 25 birthday for our Lord than any other date. But, don't take my word for it. You can read the book and see the proof for your self.

I strongly encourage you to get this ebook by Taylor Marshall especially if you have any dought about the birthday of Christ. This book is also a must read for those who believe that December 25 is not really Christ's birthday.

Anyway, thank you Taylor Marshall for writing this book! Get God's Birthday ebook for FREE a limited time only! Just click the link and in the post there is a link to get the book.

Thanks for reading my post :)

Joanne Utke

Dec 22, 2014

Holy Day Season

Have a Happy Holy Day Season!  


    Christ's life is a mystery that we can begin to understand with the help of the Holy Spirit leading us through the scriptures with the eyes of faith. This Christmas lets continue to contemplate on Christ's life starting with his birth! The Catechism can help. Also read the Gospels especially the Nativity story. A great thing to do with the family this Christmas. I have a past post about The Christmas Story that takes a look at Christmas in Luke's Gospel please take a look.

Christmas is a season about giving and charity, but not just material things. Ultimately Christmas in about Christ. Christmas is about giving of yourself to others just like Christ did. Anyone can give a store bought gift, but does everyone always give of them self? After we have learned about the birth of the savior of the world and how to give of our self to others just as Christ did we go on to Lent when we can put all of this into practice.

Then we have Easter when we can learn about and contemplate on the death and resurrection of Christ. We are reminded about his life, death, and resurrection and can live it through the Church.. We should use this to again be Christ like giving of our self to others. I want to urge you every year to get out your bibles and don't just live through the Holy Days like everyone else, but read about it in Scriptures and then really live it as well.

I would have to say that the Christmas season is my favorite time of year. It is a great time to get together with family and friends. It is an even better time to share Christ with others which can give us a good start for the new year. God knows that we need a reminder to be Christ like and we need this reminder many times each and every year. I am constantly reminded of Christ and I contently live to imitate him in my life. I also always fail at this. 

Here is a Scripture that I have on my white board as I write this post; 
    "Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children.  And walk in love, as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us, a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God." (Ephesians 5:1-2) 

In conclusion I hope that we can all be not just observers of the holidays, but active participants in mind, body and spirit. This is my goal anyway. I don't want to just do the holidays. I want to understand them and see Christ in them and do as Saint Paul says in the Ephesians verse "be imitators of God" and "walk in love." If we open our eyes to Christ we will see him everywhere and I think that is what he wants. I feel that this is how we can come to really know him.  

Please check out my The Christmas Story post as well as The Season for Giving and Charity. There is also some links to activity posts specific for the holidays.

I also did a nice post about Hanukkah if you would like to check it out. 

Thank you for reading!

Joanne



Nov 6, 2014

Soul and Spirit

Soul and spirit: The same/united in the soul, or separate? 
Does the soul die and the spirit live on?

     I say that human beings are both body and spiritual soul. Our soul isn't physical, but spiritual and can know of spiritual things as well as temporal  things. Our soul is how our bodies are moved, and how all of the natural functioning of our bodies are made possible.

The soul is how we learn, and understand, and how we can have faith, "man understands through the soul." (Saint Thomas Aquinas)

Without the soul our bodies would not be active. Therefor at death our bodies are in no more need of our soul, and our soul is free from the bodies limitations. The spiritual part of our soul is what allowes us (our soul) to move on to an after life..

I guess we could say that the soul moves the body,  and the spirit moves the soul. "Therefore the soul, which is the first principle of life, is not a body, but the act of a  body." (Saint Thomas Aquinas)

Saint Augustine when speaking about resurrected matter has this to say, "Every soul will have, as its own, all that is required to complete a whole human body." Also he says, "in an instant of time this matter returns to the soul that first animated it, and that caused it to become a man, to live and to  grow."

As humans we have a body which is physical, we also have a soul, that is spiritual, our spirit. Our spirit is what makes us human. Just like how the body and soul live united to each other in life, so does the soul and spirit after bodily death. The soul does not need the body to move, or exist. The soul is subsistent, and can subsist without the body.

"We must conclude, therefore, that the human soul, which is called the intellect or the mind, is something incorporeal and subsistent." (Saint  Thomas Aquinas) 

The Catechism of the Catholic Church states, "The human person, created  in the image of God, is a being at once corporeal and spiritual. The biblical account expresses this reality in symbolic language when it affirms that  "then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed  into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being." Man, whole and entire, is therefore willed by God." (CCC 362)

In scripture the human person is often referred to as a "soul" people are seen as souls, and human characteristics are shown to come from the soul.

Some examples, "And his soul was drawn to Dinah" (Gen 34:3) and, "So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls." (Acts 2:41), also "And fear came upon every soul" (Acts 2:43)

Jesus himself even says, “Now is my soul troubled." (John 12:27). Even evil emotions, and thoughts are shown to come from the soul, "the great man utters the evil desire of his soul" (Micah 7:3). 

Of course you can look these up and read them in context I have only quoted the portion useful for this article. You will see more examples of how human emotions, thoughts and desired come from the soul, and more specifically the spiritual human soul.

Even though evil thoughts and intentions can come from the soul, it is our spirit that moves us to pure thoughts and good intentions. Our spirit which is like God's Spirit is how God speaks to our souls. We are connected to him spiritually in this way.

Soul and spirit separate, but one.

In scripture the soul, and spirit are often talked about in a way that denotes there separate functions, but not necessarily meant to explain a duality of soul, and spirit. In other words not to mean that the soul, and spirit are separate from each other. Scripture showes that all though the soul, and spirit have some separate functions they are one, and together make the spiritual human soul, and the complete person.

“My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior" (Luke  1:46-47)

"And now, O Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, the soul in anguish, and the troubled spirit crieth to thee" (Baruch 3:1)

We see that the soul, and spirit serve man in their own way. Not only does the soul move the physical body, the soul is moved by the spirit into emotional experiences and especially spiritual experiences.

The soul suffers while the spirit cries out to God!

Like I said before the soul moves the body, and the spirit moves the soul. The  spirit moves the soul to prayer (praying in spirit), to faith in God, to understanding of divine things, to love, etc.. All of these spiritual works is what leads us to our salvation.

This is how Saint Steven could say, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” (Acts 7:59)          

And how it is said of Christ, "When Jesus had received the vinegar, he said, “It is finished”; and he bowed his head and gave up his spirit." (John 19:30)

This is why we humans have spiritual souls, this spiritualness of our soul is what makes it, subsistent, and immortal. Our spiritual soul is how we are created in the  "image of God" (Gen 3:7)

 "The human body shares in the dignity of "the  image of God": it is a human body precisely because it is animated by a  spiritual soul, and it is the whole human person that is intended to become,  in the body of Christ, a temple of the Spirit" (CCC 364)

But, what about verses that seem to show that the soul and spirit are separate things? Like, (Danial 3:86) "O ye spirits and souls of the just, bless the Lord: praise and exalt him above all for ever."

(1 Thess 5:23), "may the God of peace himself sanctify you in all things; that your whole spirit, and soul, and body, may be preserved blameless in the  coming of our Lord Jesus Christ."

And, (Mark 12:30) "and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.’"

We see that we are to love God with the full capacity of all the functions of our body, soul, and spirit, as in this next verse. "and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might." (Deuteronomy 6:5)

This Mark verse especially is not to be taken as the heart, soul and mind are separate things, but that they are united in their separate functions in one spiritual person.

Take our physical bodies for example we have a heart, lungs, liver, brain, arms, legs, etc... We are comprised of many parts, but all are one in our one body. If we part up the human body it will not live as a body. No physical part of us will live on it's own a part from the rest of the parts of a body. Not only that a leg is not a body, no more than a heart is a body. Only all parts together (united) make a body!

The only exception to this is our spiritual soul that as scripture show es and I will point out can and will live apart from the body. Yet, this is a temporary state scripture also tells us that to be fully alive is to be united body and soul in Christ. This is why Christ emphasized the resurrection when are bodies are united to our spiritual souls as the completion of his mission, and our true end.

Regarding the above verses, (Daniel 3:86, 1 Thess 5:23, Mark 12:30) we must read these verses in light of the other verses that clearly show a  unity of both soul, and spirit, as mentioned above.

In regards to the 1 Thess  5:23 verse we see that it is important that we become sanctified in all things namely our "spirit, and soul, and body" not that these are all separate things,  but that their separate functions all work in unity towards our perfect end/salvation.

Further we read in (Hebrews 4:12) "For the word of God is living and effectual, and more piercing than any two edged sword; and reaching unto the division of the soul and the spirit, of the joints also and the marrow, and  is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." 

This shows that like joints and marrow, the soul and spirit are working together in a special unity, or oneness, and that only the word of God can penetrate it, move it, effect a change in it, divide it, etc...

Souls and salvation.

I said before that when the body no longer needs the soul as in death, the soul is then free from the limitations of the body. It is the spirit that moves the soul towards it's after life. Many times the Scripture authors use language to show that the soul has moved on, and left the body.

"And as her soul was departing (for she died), she called his name Ben-o′ni; but his father called his name Benjamin. So Rachel died, and she was buried on the way to Ephrath (that is, Bethlehem)" (Genesis 35:18-19)

The state of our soul upon death will determine it's ultimate end. It is the soul that requires salvation, "As the outcome of your faith you obtain the salvation of your souls." (1 Pet 1:9)

The state of our souls is precisely why we need salvation. In 1 Peter we also read, "Having purified your souls by your obedience to the truth for a sincere love of the brethren, love one another earnestly from the heart." (1 Peter 1:22)

Sin hurts us, and not just because of the problems it causes the body, but more importantly the problems sin causes in our soul! Therefor we must work through faith in Christ, and obedience to the truth to save our soul, and others,

"let him know that  whoever brings back a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins." (James 5:20)

If the soul dies upon death of the body then what is said in James makes no sense. Why  would we have to save our souls, and others if the soul just dies anyway?

Why would Peter imply that our soul must be purified if it just dies upon the death of the body anyway? He would only need mention purifying our souls if our soul lived on to await the resurrection.

So, does the soul die after death, and the spirit live on? 

I have already touched  on some of this above. I have said and shown you that while there is  sometimes a distinction in Scripture between soul and spirit, there is also a  unity, a oneness, and that the distinction does not mean to show us a duality of soul and spirit.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church puts it this way, "Sometimes the soul  is distinguished from the spirit: St. Paul for instance prays that God may  sanctify his people "wholly", with "spirit and soul and body" kept sound and  blameless at the Lord's coming. The Church teaches that this distinction  does not introduce a duality into the soul. "Spirit" signifies that from  creation man is ordered to a supernatural end and that his soul can gratuitously be raised beyond all it deserves to communion with God." (CCC  367)

In (Matthew 10:28) we read, "And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell."

Here Christ is telling us to fear God, and not man because man can only kill the body and not the soul, but God if he wants can kill both! If the soul was separate from the spirit, and automatically died when the body dies, then this warning of Christ makes no sense. This verse implies that the soul is alive still even when the body is dead.

If the soul separated from the body, and died as a natural part of death then  man could kill the soul when man kills a body. And if our soul is dead upon our natural bodily death then how can, or why would God destroy it in hell?

The Catechism of the Catholic Church states, "The unity of soul and body is so profound that one has to consider the soul to be the "form" of the body: it  is because of its spiritual soul that the body made of matter becomes a  living, human body; spirit and matter, in man, are not two natures united,  but rather their union forms a single nature." (CCC 365)

"The Church teaches that every spiritual soul is created immediately by God  - it is not "produced" by the parents - and also that it is immortal: it does not  perish when it separates from the body at death, and it will be reunited with  the body at the final Resurrection." (CCC 366)

This is why at the resurrection our spiritual soul is united to our body, yet not the same corruptible body that we had, but a glorified spiritual body united perfectly with our spiritual soul.

"So is it with the resurrection of the dead. What is sown is perishable, what  is raised is imperishable. It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is  sown in weakness, it is raised in power. It is sown a physical body, it is raised  a spiritual body. If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual body." (1 Cor 15:42-44) 

This spiritual body as I have shown is not a body with a spirit, but a glorified incorruptible body with a spiritual soul! While on earth this spiritual soul has a oneness that can lead us to spiritual action, thoughts, knowledge, love, etc..  And hopefully towards our salvation.

We are a body with a spiritual soul. Our spiritual soul will not naturally die on it's own, our soul by nature is immortal, because by nature it is spiritual. This spiritual soul is one, both soul, and spirit. Any distinction between body and soul does not mean a separated nature, but that they have separate functions that work in unity with our whole self. At the resurrection of the body this unity will be perfected and complete. In the mean time our spiritual soul will live on to be with God, angels and Saints!

A little bit on "soul sleep"

Some people believe that in scripture many times sleep is referred to as death and that this indicates that our souls actually are sleeping until the resurrection of the body. Some believe that this is the end of our existence prior to the Resurrection of the dead, and some say that our spirit is the only part of us that moves on. While others say no part of us moves on to an after life.

Most of the time in Scripture when sleep is referenced it is actually regarding real bodily sleep/rest. Some times however it is used in another way. I have found that nowhere in Scripture is this notion of soul sleep taught. Anytime where sleep is used in conjunction with death it is referring to the body as being inactive, and appearing to be sleeping.

Prior to the resurrection of the dead our bodies remain inactive and return to dust, but our spiritual soul lives on to be reunited to an "awakened" glorified body! This is the context of scripture, and falling asleep in death. Since our soul is not the body, but the form of the body this makes sense. It is our bodies that appear to be sleeping at death.

The language in scripture used about sleeping in death is known as phenomenological language. This occurs when we describe something as it looks, and not of how it is actually. The classic example of phenomenological language is when we talk about the sun rising and setting. The sun appears to rise and set, but this motion is actually due to the rotation of the earth rather than to motion of the sun around the earth.

Scriptural example of the phenomenological language occurs in verses like this one, "And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." (Daniel 12:2) 

Daniel is speaking about the resurrection of the body, and not the state of the soul after death. We must take all scripture in light of the others, and in light of the resurrection.

"so man lies down and rises not again; till the heavens are no more he will not awake, or be roused out of his sleep." (Job 14:12) 

This is another example about people being raised out of "sleep" for the resurrection. Again we must look at verses like this in light of the resurrection. Both these verses are talking specifically about the body and not the state of the soul.

One more example of this phenomenological language is verses that show God to be sleeping obviously we know that God doesn't need sleep and he is not sleeping although sometimes it seems that way like in this Psalm.

"Rouse thyself! Why sleepest thou, O Lord? Awake! Do not cast us off for ever! (Psalm 44:23)

I have found no such Scripture to show that anything other than the body "sleeps" in death. When we sleep for rest for example our souls are still active. Our souls doesn't sleep when we sleep, but remains active. This is how we dream, and this is how people suffering from a coma are still alive. I say this because our soul is linked to our mind. We can see this in Scripture and in the other quotes I have provided.

God spoke to people many times threw dreams here is only a few examples from Matthew you can look them up, (Matthew 1:20, 2:12-22)

It is clear to me that often times sleep is used as a euphemism for death (Euphemism is defined as a mild or indirect word or expression substituted for one considered to be too harsh or blunt when referring to something unpleasant or embarrassing) our Lord himself uses such a euphemism.

"Thus he spoke, and then he said to them, “Our friend Laz′arus has fallen asleep, but I go to awake him out of sleep.” The disciples said to him, “Lord, if he has fallen asleep, he will recover.” Now Jesus had spoken of his death, but they thought that he meant taking rest in sleep. Then Jesus told them plainly, “Laz′arus is dead;" (John 11:11-14)

We know that Jesus loved Lazarus and that he cried about his death. Being like us in every way, but sin Jesus here is using a Euphemism for death at first rather then plainly stating that he was dead perhaps for the sake of those around him. Also notice that the Apostles with him did not take him to be speaking about death when he said sleep, but they understood him literally to mean rest.

Another example of this, "And when Jesus came to the ruler’s house, and saw the flute players, and the crowd making a tumult, he said, “Depart; for the girl is not dead but sleeping.” And they laughed at him. But when the crowd had been put outside, he went in and took her by the hand, and the girl arose." (Matthew 9:23-25)

Also here the people did not take him to be speaking literally about death, and laughed at him because they knew she was dead. Obviously sleep was not something that they used to literally mean death or they would have understood what he was saying.

Many people use this next verse to prove "soul sleep,"
"Lo! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed," (1 Corinthians 15:51)

When we look at this in context we see that sleep is being used in conjunction with the resurrection of the bodies of the dead. Sleep here is being used in a way to show that our bodies which have returned to dust will be raised as if they had been sleeping.

"I tell you this, brethren: flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. Lo! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed." (1 Corinthians 15:50-52)

This is how it is said,  "but when anything is exposed by the light it becomes visible, for anything that becomes visible is light. therefore it is said, “Awake, O sleeper, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give you light.” (Eph 5:13-14). 

Remember we will be fully alive, and our self when we are reunited with our glorified bodies at the final resurrection!

“When the Son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate them one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats," (Matt 2531-32). 

"And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”" (Matt 25:46)

Another way that sleep is mentioned in scripture is to show that we are asleep in faith, or intellect and that we need to awaken, and take notice of the things that we are failing to do.

"So then let us not sleep, as others do, but let us keep awake and be sober." (1 Thessalonians 5:6 )

In conclusion. 

We have so many good English translations of the Bible available to us today and with remarkable accuracy to the original Greek texts (Septuagint) and Hebrew texts. Some may say when you look up the Greek it is spirit not soul there for it says something different.

First of all which Greek text? Not surprising there are a number of Greek texts for the bible and many also differ in wordage used from another. So while one Greek text says soul, another may say spirit in the same verse.

I have come to the conclusion that the Holy Spirit has preserved very well the message of scripture through the various main stream translations available to use today. The Holy Spirit most faithfully does this through the interpretive authority of the Catholic Church, believe it or not!

I think it doesn't matter whether the verse says soul or spirit since they are one thing which denotes different functioning only, as I have shown here. Both words when human beings are concerned mean the spiritual human soul, no matter if spirit or soul was present in the original texts. The only way it matters is if you believe that spirit and soul are different things, this changes everything!

 Please note that the different word used is used to denote a particular function of the spiritual soul and not meant to show that they are separate things all together.

Soul, or spirit may be used to denote the whole human person, or the whole spiritual person, and spirit may be used to denote some spiritual concept. I encourage you to always cross reference and if you can do learn biblical Greek as well as Latin since both were at once universal languages as English is today, and compare for the best understanding.

Almost there your patients is appreciated :)

I think that it is dangerous to think that the soul dies after death. Like I said earlier our soul is what in us that needs salvation. Our soul moves our body, and sin committed in the body effects the state of and, salvation of our souls.

Our souls are spiritual this is where spirit comes from. God has given us this spirit, his Spirit so that we can unite our wills to his and enter salvation. Our soul is not separate from the spirit, but one united for our immortality. This is what makes us human because we have a spiritual soul. When we begin by rejecting the immortality of the soul, we then can find our self on a slippery slope to rejecting sin, and the effects of sin.

We can then say that we have no need of salvation because our soul dies anyway. This thinking may also lead us to rejecting the wonderful sacramental system established for us in the Church like baptism which removes the stain of sin from our souls.

There are many things not explicitly taught in scripture that the Church has declared through her authority. It is good to look to this authority for a full explanation of biblical truths. The Church is the body of Christ united through all believers. Through her authority she is our Mother and we owe it to Christ to listen. The Church is also the voice of Christ in this world and the interpreter of sacred scripture.

The immortality of the spiritual soul is an infallible teaching of the Catholic Church which is from Christ. She has spoken, and as Saint Ignatius 2nd century Bishop of Antioch says...

 "You must all follow the bishop as Jesus Christ follows the Father, and the presbytery as you would the Apostles. Reverence the deacons as you would the command of God. Let no one do anything of concern to the Church without the bishop. Let that be considered a valid Eucharist which is celebrated by the bishop, or by one whom he appoints. Wherever the bishop appears, let the people be there; just as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church. Nor is it permitted without the bishop either to baptize or to celebrate the agape; but whatever he approve, this too is pleasing to God, so that whatever is done will be secure and valid."

By Joanne 11-6-2014

References and quotes:

Saint Thomas Aquinas Summa Theologica part 2 Article 1 Whether the soul  is a body? Article 2 Whether the human soul is something subsistent?

Saint Augustine's Enchiridion CHAPTER XXIII.  The Reality of the  Resurrection

The Catechism of the Catholic Church CCC 362-367. II. "BODY AND SOUL BUT TRULY ONE"

Letter to the Smyrnaeans by St. Ignatius of Antioch. Third Bishop of Antioch 98-110 AD a hearer of the apostle John and 3rd in order to Peter. Quote From the Faith of the early Church fathers, Jergans addition

Gen 34:3
Acts 2:41
Acts 2:43
Luke 1:46-47
Baruch 3:1
Gen 3:7
Danial 3:86
1 Thess 5:23
Mark 12:30
Hebrews 4:12
Genesis 35:18-19
1 Pet 1:9
1 Peter 1:22
James 5:20
Matthew 10:28
1 Cor 15:42-44
Job 14:12
Psalm 44:23
Matthew 1:20, 2:12-22)
John 11:11-14
Matthew 9:23-25
1 Corinthians 15:50-52
Eph 5:13-14
Matt 25:31-32
Matt 25:46
1 Thessalonians 5:6

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